Obama vs. McCain on the economy

It’s all right here, and it’s short and strong. The way the two men approach problems is literally day and night. The blogger, remember, is with Pajamas Media and was a strong Bush supporter.

While you are there, scroll down and read some of the posts. Professor Cole has a keen eye for political BS.

The Discussion: 14 Comments

James A. Johnson – former Fannie Mae CEO and Obama Advisor

Just cost you billions in taxes

Franklin Raines – former Fannie Mae CEO and Obama Advisor

Just cost you billions in taxes

Barack Obama – If we can’t afford his advisors, how can we afford him?

September 17, 2008 @ 8:19 am | Comment

Sam, you have all the one-liners worked out in advance. Have you taken a look at McCain’s advisors? I mean those at the very top? (I’ll do the research for you later – if that is how we are going to judge the candidates, yours are in deep trouble.) Meanwhile, Johnson’s sole role for Obama was to advise on the vice president search, period. He did ot hire him as an economic advisor. Raines is definitely an unfortunate choice and Obama should drop him. But hell, McCain just hired the guy who created the 2000 whisper campaign about him having two secret black children.

Meanwhile, as always, there’s no discussion about the subject of the the post, instead just the usual snipes at Obama. Your attitude toward politics was summarized perfectly by your blog in 2004. At that time, a photo got leaked by Drudge of Kerry visiting some factory dressed in the obligatory bunny suit. Republicans found this just hilarious, and you pasted that image and kept it at the top of your blog for many weeks. So the first thing visitors saw was a mockery of Kerry. It’s not about issues or ideas, just making Democrats look like clowns and criminals. Look at The McCain campaign vs Obama and tell me who’s doing the most lying.

Anyway, luckily I still love you and had a great time visiting you in Shenzhen. You just have to get off your Republican high horse and realize we don’t want four more or eight more years of where we are now. You’re a smart guy. Do you really think the selection of Palin was well conducted?

September 17, 2008 @ 8:45 am | Comment

Richard, one of the points on which I agree with Obama is his stance on NO MORE BAIL OUTS! I’m sick and tired of these corporate executives brushing ethics and sound business practices aside in favor of reaping huge profits in the short-term. Then, once when they begin to reap what they’ve sewn, they cry for government (taxpayers) bail outs. Horse pucky! Time to cut the safety net and hold these bastards accountable. Otherwise, it will be an endless cycle.

September 17, 2008 @ 9:00 am | Comment

Oh, my God! Posting a silly picture of Kerry?! Next you’ll be discovering my unpaid parking ticket. And you have to admit, he looked goofy as hell.

Look, you’re backing a product of the Chicago political scene: no reason to expect a completely clean background. Obama is the second biggest recipient of Fannie/Freddie contributions after Chris Dodd. Profits on shaky loans to the shareholders, losses to the taxpayers? No problem, Dude! That’s a change we can believe in! Here’s the pre-approved spin if he were Republican: “In the pocket of the Enron of housing!”

Surely you don’t think they sent Obama all those dollars for nothing? I read the post; it was all about speeches. This comment is about the actual record. I’m not sure how wise it is to focus too much on Obama’s economic prowess.

September 17, 2008 @ 9:05 am | Comment

But Sam, that posting of the picture was emblematic – you find someone in an embarrassing photo and keep it in full view everywhere on your site. The statement is the photo. It’s as deep as your argument goes. Like throwing out one liners and taking off. But I’m not complaining, I think it’s kind of sweet. The post was not only about speeches but about McCain’s unwillingness to do anything except to say, almost literally, “Sorry, there’s nothing I can do.” Meanwhile, Fannie/Freddie donated money to the Dems (and to the GOP, too, though not as much) so I guess Obama’s to blame for the housing crisis.

Gordon, with you a billion percent. This being an election year, expect to see more buyouts and “assistance,” notably with AIG. Truly in the free market Republican spirit (not).

September 17, 2008 @ 9:25 am | Comment

Emblematic of something, I suppose. If you look at the site now, there’s been a funny picture of Gov. Palin up for quite a while. So, it proves I’m an equal-opportunity laugher. Kerry’s pic was funny, Palin’s cartoon is funny, and Obama is a huge beneficiary of Fannie’s cash. Focusing on his economic RECORD is even more likely to come back and bite you than pointing out funny pictures on my silly little blog.

It’s silly season, and I expect you to do your part. Well done, so far.

September 17, 2008 @ 9:42 am | Comment

Ok, but your picture of Kerry at the time – and it was up a looooong time – was not funny, it was mocking. I know you are a splendid person, but when it comes to politics this Mr. Hyde splurts out like Alien out of John Hurt’s abdomen. Anyway, back to the issues at hand. Here’s the bottom line: Obama must win. We cannot under any circumstances leave this country in the hands of John McCain, let alone Sarah Palin. The post I directed you to underscores a key difference in attitude and approach, let alone rhetorical skill. We can find things in the record of anyone and everyone to point fingers at. We have what we have, and we can’t risk putting yet another anti-regulation, tax-cuts-for-the-rich pro-war ideologue in the White House.

September 17, 2008 @ 10:11 am | Comment

Here’s the way I see it and either way the outlook is not good: Vote for McCain and there’s a pretty damn good chance we’ll have troops in Iran. Vote for Obama and the US will more than likely end up signing off sovereignty to corrupt entities like the UN. Obama is further left than Hillary and she scares the bejeezus out of me.

I’m tired of having to vote for the lesser of two evils. Thankfully, Ron Paul will still be on the Ind. ballot. You might think I’m crazy, but I think Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich would have been the best duo for America, but we all know you can’t get elected to White House telling the truth.

September 17, 2008 @ 11:28 am | Comment

Gordon, I think you’re really wrong about Obama being more to the left than Hillary. On a per-issue basis (healthcare, Social Security, taxes) this simply isn’t accurate.

I like Kucinich. Admire some of Paul’s views on our involvement in Iraq, but libertarians like him are scary, and he’s an old-school Bircher.

I wouldn’t call voting for Obama or McCain the lesser of two evils. Only McCain is truly evil, something I never thought I’d say. Watching him pursue an interesting strategy of telling Big Lies and not caring that he’s called on them because no one’s listening to the critics – watching this, I can only conclude he has completely sold his soul.

Obama is not my first choice, but he is not evil.

September 17, 2008 @ 11:55 am | Comment

Isn’t it amazing that Kucinich has been consistent all along? Amazing that possibly the most intelligent and thoughtful candidate was labeled as a “whacko.” I hope that Obama will find a place for him in his cabinet (if he’s elected, that is).

September 17, 2008 @ 1:03 pm | Comment

No question about Obama being elected, that’s a given.

Kucinich certainly got a bum rap. I always thought he was great.

September 17, 2008 @ 1:33 pm | Comment

Only McCain is truly evil, something I never thought I’d say.

Why, because he didn’t pick Lieberman as VP candidate so the GOP would self-destruct and Obama could start measuring for curtains? All reports suggest he wanted Lieberman but knew it wouldn’t work.

Watching him pursue an interesting strategy of telling Big Lies and not caring that he’s called on them because no one’s listening to the critics

And Obama hasn’t been indulging in cheap shots himself? Making a personal attack against McCain as being out-of-touch just because it’s painful for him to use a keyboard – ignoring the fact he’s sponsored tech initiatives himself before people were jumping on the IT bandwagon. Reportedly Obama wasn’t any better.

http://tinyurl.com/597wee

Now I don’t know the background to this blog, so I’m prepared for you dismissing it as Republican – as if that means anything it says is automatically wrong.

But in any case, are you really telling me that Obama is running a massively cleaner campaign? I don’t see it, as much as you want to.

September 17, 2008 @ 3:24 pm | Comment

No question about Obama being elected, that’s a given.

Just like Clinton being nominated and Kerry winning back in 2004? Richard, I guess when you have a 50/50 chance of being right eventually something will go your way.

September 17, 2008 @ 3:25 pm | Comment

Richard, here’s a political
compass
 that illustrates where each of the presidential candidates
stood on the issues during the primaries. This is based on their comments during
speeches, debates and their voting records. Of course, we all know that
candidates tend to walk differently than they talked once they’re elected to
office. Time will tell.

September 17, 2008 @ 9:05 pm | Comment

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