Shanghai officials argue that pajama-wearing pedestrians are “visual pollution,” while offenders maintain they aren’t hurting anybody. I admit, my level of culture shock hit a new high the first time I came to Shanghai in 2001 and saw the likes of the above photo, but like a lot of things here, you get used to it. I can think of a lot more important things to worry about.
December 13, 2008
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1 By Raj
I can think of a lot more important things to worry about.
Amen.
December 13, 2008 @ 10:48 pm | Comment
2 By Math
The election of Obama shows that the American Whites Have Degenerated.
There is a huge population of whites in America, and they all receive generally good education, and have the number one standard of living in the world. But why was did it not produce any competent candidate for the Presidency? The reason is wealth. When one becomes wealthy, becomes a member of the upper class, of the aristocrat class, one will start to degenerate and regress. We can safely believe that today’s American Whites cannot compete at all with their predecessors. They have become lazy, “eat-when-food-is-at-the-mouth”, are not eager to learn, no longer strive hard in life. As a result, important positions in America are slowly being occupied by foreigners that are eager to learn and are much more industrious. If you look at the population of the American police force, or the American army, minorities are occupying more and more. Why? Because rich White Americans (and their children) do not want to be a police or a marine, what do they want to do? They want to sit at home, eat when the food is at the mouth, play some ipod, some mp3, have sex with 3 or 4 people at the same time and use drugs.
After 911, the American government commissioned a study to find out how the terrorists were able to hijack 4 planes and bypass all the security at airports. Among many other findings, the most shocking finding of the study was that the security personnel at most American airpots were non-Whites, and most were not even American citizens – the airports have to hire minorities because American whites are totally unwilling to work at Airport security checkpoints.
Is there a chance that the son or daughter of Bill Gates or Warren Buffets have a chance to run for the American Presidency? My opinion is, not a chance at all.
George Bush is a true reflection of today’s rich American children.
Unavoidably, I start to compare this with the late Qing Dynasty. The collapse of the Qing Dynasty was due in large part to the continual denegeneration and degradation of the children of the Manchus. While the first generation Mancus were fierce fighers, industrious workers, ambitious rulers were able to defeat the much larger in number Hans. But their 4th, 5th, 6th generation children? I’m sorry, they were no the same fighters their predecessors were, and the children sat on the fruits that their great-grandprants emperors toiled for them, and let the fruits go rot.
Similary, why were the first generation Manchus able to defeat the much larger in number Hans? Same reason, the Hans also had degenerated and lost their fight, their industriousness, their spirit. Both the Manchus and the Hans had similar weapons, it’s not like the Manchus had newer technology. And Hans had much more people, and were already the governing class of China. How did the Hans lost? Very simple, it was a battle of physical ability, of mental toughness, of determination, of human will. How did the Hans get massacred?
Same thing with the Romans’ collapse. The upperclass of the Romans were too comfortable in their lives, too worry-free, too cozy. As a result, your intellects, your physical ability start to degenerate. If everyday, when you wake up, you have a nicely made bed, free luxurious food, free luxurious mansion, free beautiful women, all stuff done for you by servants. Why do you need to feel the need to train your army, to feel the need to think hard and worry for your future, to feel the need to plan ahead? You have no such need at all. Life was too comfortable, too warm, too cozy.
When a group of people no longer have to worry about food, about clothing, about surival. Then, their children will very quickly start to degenerate, to regress. American cannot avoid this fate either.
In modern history, Mao Zedong constructed an able Army who can turn very simple weapons and completely slaughter the American-equipped KMT, slaughter much more modern UN forces in Korea. But soon, the sons and daughters ( and in a larger extend their grandchildren) of the first generation revolutionary fighters of the CCP start to degenerate. If you read the memoir of one of Mao’s daughter Li Na, she says in the book, “Grandpa once told me that the children of the revolutionaries were scum. I didn’t understand what he meant. But today, I understand completely.”
So, you may ask “Math! So how can we avoid degeneration after our lives become comfortable and worry-free?”
Mao actually invented a technique to avoid such things. And this technique can be applied to any group in the world. If the American whites want to regain their former glory, regain their former strength, then it is completely possible by following Mao’s technique. But this technique has been demonized by people around the world and no one trusts it anymore. This technique, to avoid the degeneration of the rich, is the Cultural Revolution.
December 14, 2008 @ 2:26 am | Comment
3 By Won Hung Lo
Thank you for the amusing albeit laughingly incorrect assessment of today’s Americans.
December 14, 2008 @ 6:52 am | Comment
4 By Cho Li
What an idiotic assessment this is. Thanks for nothing.
December 14, 2008 @ 6:55 am | Comment
5 By Richard
Come on, it’s Math – what are you expecting?
December 14, 2008 @ 9:26 am | Comment
6 By Twisted_Colour
I’m with you Math!!
The degeneration of the American White is almost complete. Next thing you know the Yanks will be walking the streets in their pajamas or going for healthy swims accross polluted rivers.
December 14, 2008 @ 9:31 am | Comment
7 By lensovet
wow, really? someone wearing pajamas in the street is something that actually triggers a reaction from people? i mean honestly, i’d be curious about why they do it, but that’s about it.
people amaze me sometimes.
December 15, 2008 @ 4:16 am | Comment
8 By yourfriend
Seriously, who cares. As for “degeneration”, the original American whites were the definition of degenerate with their slavery, fanaticism and genocide and whatnot.
December 15, 2008 @ 7:24 am | Comment
9 By Richard
Lensovet, when you say “triggers a reaction” – well, everything we see triggers a reaction; For me, it was never a negative or positive reaction, just one of surprise because in my own world I never once saw grown people walking in the street wearing pajamas. I would say it is literally impossible for a Westerner to not have a reaction triggered the first time they see this. Maybe amusement, maybe shock, maybe annoyance or whatever. Probably the same way it triggered a reaction in someone I met from the countryside who never saw anyone eat salad before (all she ever ate were cooked vegetables). Anything new that disrupts our sense of what is “normal” will trigger a reaction like this, no matter how open-minded we are.
December 15, 2008 @ 7:37 am | Comment
10 By Bill Dan
Good to see you back in the blogosphere. Like you said when I first came to China and was living in BJ it sort of freaked me out a bit and was a subject for some humorous banter, but now I hardly give it a second glance after 4 years. Tacky, but no worse than some things I had to suffer through visually back in Seattle.
December 15, 2008 @ 7:49 am | Comment
11 By Chip
People walking around in their PJ’s? Go walk around any state college campus in the states between the hours of 7:00 to noon, same thing.
December 15, 2008 @ 8:53 am | Comment
12 By Richard
I’ve been to many college campuses and haven’t seen that. Ever. I live near Arizona State in the US and never saw that. But if you say so…. But even if it were so, the main streets of a major city are not state university campuses. It is hardly common to see people walking down the streets of, say, New York, Chicago or Boston wearing pajamas.
December 15, 2008 @ 9:48 am | Comment
13 By hexi
well, my first time here
have a nice day~
December 15, 2008 @ 4:42 pm | Comment
14 By Shanghai Slim
Welcome back online, Richard!
When I first moved to China, the Pajama People cracked me up. Adults … wearing PJ’s … in public! Why aren’t they carrying their teddy bears?
But surprisingly quickly it came to seem “normal”, and I realized it’s all so arbitrary. I mean, who is to say that a nice pair of pajamas are “embarassing” to wear in public, but sweat pants are acceptable?
I would rather see a campaign against wearing that d@mn Walt Disney rat.
December 15, 2008 @ 8:15 pm | Comment
15 By Richard
Totally agree, Slim. As is usually the case with your comments.
I’m kind of back, but am in class all day and doing freelance work at night, so I’m only going to be posting sporadically. Not like the good old days, at least not for a while.
December 15, 2008 @ 9:39 pm | Comment
16 By Jason
The ‘jamied dude was what we used to make fun of in Taiwan circa 1987. On a lucky day, one could spot a whole family of 4 or five in matching pajamas. LOL!
December 18, 2008 @ 2:19 pm | Comment
17 By Eric
I was really amazed by this sort of wired behevior.How could anyone possiblly walk out in pajama on the road? r we living in a civilized world?is there any difference between wearing pajama out and underware out?the same thing!lol
December 19, 2008 @ 8:57 pm | Comment
18 By Richard
All depends on where you’re coming from. Like a Chinese person looking at us as we barbarically cut our food with a fork and knife….
December 19, 2008 @ 9:12 pm | Comment
19 By rain fu
i think that pajama-wearing pedestrians are “visual pollution. yes, i admit that we have a lot of important things to do. and this is very trifle. but for shanghai, which is a worldwide famous city, the least thing can turn to big and serious things. around the world, the human being will never reach the level of egulity for everything.and we can not make everything,everywhere and every city perfect. but what we can do is to make at least one city better, letting people hold the dream and hope. also by doing so, it can sparkle the flame of enthusiasm for making progress. i support the Shanghai officials
December 20, 2008 @ 11:03 pm | Comment
20 By ecodelta
Could someone walking on the street in pajama allege that he/she is somnambulist?
And what happen with people suffering from somnambulism, must they dress elegantly before going to sleep?
Just wondering 😉
December 21, 2008 @ 2:32 am | Comment
21 By ecodelta
” as we barbarically cut our food with a fork and knife….”
That depends on how you cut it. Was the food alive or already dead (and cooked) when you cut it?
December 21, 2008 @ 2:34 am | Comment
22 By Richard
rainfu, I would respectfully disagree with you. I’d rather they focus on things that leave a much stronger impression, like spitting, drivers ignoring pedestrians on the road, and littering (to start). These things leave a far more negative impression on visitors than seeing someone on the street in pajamas. The latter is a curiosity and utterly harmless. The others ignite deeper concerns.
Ecodelta, everything’s relative. What’s barbaric to some….
December 21, 2008 @ 11:39 am | Comment
23 By Jay
Most Shanghainese are embarrassed by their PJ-wearing cohorts but it’s nothing to get worked up about. I’d rather see this than the hiphop nerds that wear pants down around their knees. It gives Shanghai a unique character.
December 23, 2008 @ 12:24 am | Comment
24 By jeassy
it is such a funny thing, but i think it is not suitable to wear a pajamas on the street,is she did it on purpose? i do think it is a visual polution. i can’t agree with what she did.
December 28, 2008 @ 10:00 pm | Comment
25 By Kate
I feel the article named “crackdown on Shanghai’s pajama pedestrian” is very intersting.The picture alone is so funny that I can’t help laugh. In the content, the word”visual pollution”is uesd very appropriately and described those people’s discordant behavior properly. And this article not only make me laugh but also meke me think a lot deeply about this phenomenon.
December 28, 2008 @ 10:44 pm | Comment
26 By Elsa
Actually, I think maybe in most Shanghaiers’ eyes, they take the conception of public place in a different way, it is just a residntial community, or family in its general sense,so it is understandable!
December 29, 2008 @ 7:46 pm | Comment
27 Posted at kinablog.dk
[…] • Hvis du har været i Shanghai, så har du også set, hvordan de lokale går rundt på gaden i pyjamas. Det kan man nu også se mange andre steder i Kina, men det er især udbredt i Shanghai. Og det skal der gøres noget ved. For næste år er der verdensudstilling i byen, og det er ikke godt for Shanghais internationale image, når de lokale beboere tøffer rundt på gaderne i nattøj. Det er uciviliseret, mener lokalregeringen, der nu forsøger at få borgerne til kun at gå ud i mere passende klæder. Og det har givet debat. Det er et slag mod den personlige frihed, og det skal regeringen ikke blande sig i, lyder kritikken. Opsamling på Chinahush, Shanghaiist og Wall Street Journals kinablog. Det er i øvrigt ikke første gang, at lokalregeringen forsøger at gøre noget ved den “visuelle forurening”. […]
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